{"id":452,"date":"2006-01-25T23:11:10","date_gmt":"2006-01-26T07:11:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/blog\/?p=452"},"modified":"2006-01-25T23:12:02","modified_gmt":"2006-01-26T07:12:02","slug":"moving-to-new-york","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/blog\/2006\/01\/25\/moving-to-new-york\/","title":{"rendered":"Moving to New York"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>That&#8217;s right.  Crazy as it sounds, I&#8217;m going to move to New York.  I&#8217;m still somewhat in disbelief myself.  Here&#8217;s how it happened.<\/p>\n<p>Four or five years ago, I found this guy on the web who wrote about software development and software management and called himself <a href=http:\/\/www.joelonsoftware.com>Joel on Software<\/a>.  His ideas made a lot of sense to me (treat your people well, keep management simple, stay out of the way of productive coding).  I became a disciple, quoting his essays to my managers and trying to learn from what he had to say.  But he was in New York City, and his company was only hiring <a href=http:\/\/www.joelonsoftware.com\/articles\/HighNotes.html>top-notch software developers<\/a> that were described as coding &#8220;animals&#8221;.  Since I mostly do software because I&#8217;m good at it and it pays well, I didn&#8217;t think that description fit me, so I never applied to work at his company.  But I kept on reading his columns and daydreamed about someday working at a company that was run along those principles.<\/p>\n<p>In a separate storyline, it was five years ago that I <A href=http:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/chorus\/carnegie.html>sang at Carnegie Hall<\/a>.  I stayed over the following weekend, and had an absolute blast exploring New York with some friends of mine.  We had bagels at Zabar&#8217;s, hit a jazz club in Greenwich Village, wandered through Central Park, etc.  And I started daydreaming about someday getting to know New York better, maybe spending a year or two living in New York.  <\/p>\n<p>Last spring, I decided I was never going to get the chance to live in New York for an extended period of time, so I <a href=http:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/blog\/2005\/03\/>spent a three week vacation there<\/a>.  I sublet an apartment in the East Village, and walked all over the place visiting museums, going to shows and restaurants, etc.  It was a blast.  I&#8217;d kind of been hoping that three weeks would get New York out of my system and make me feel like &#8220;Okay, now I&#8217;ve <i>done<\/i> New York &#8211; time to do something else&#8221;, but instead I felt like I&#8217;d barely scratched the surface.  But three weeks had already been stretching how long a vacation could be, and I couldn&#8217;t really do that every year.  <\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, I&#8217;d steadily been growing more disillusioned with being a software engineer.  I could do it, and do it well, but it wasn&#8217;t my passion.  I wasn&#8217;t really sure what my passion was, although bad management certainly seemed to raise my ire.  I started to explore the idea of moving into management myself &#8211; I had the technical chops to have the respect of technical teams, but could also communicate effectively to my less technical colleagues.  And I started to understand how hard good management was.  But getting onto the management track is tricky, especially coming from a technical background.  Most companies will not hire a manager that does not have management experience (or an MBA), so I had to find a company that would hire me as a technical person, but give me the opportunity to gain management experience. <\/p>\n<p>At the end of October, I happened to read Joel&#8217;s post where he announced that he was <a href=http:\/\/www.joelonsoftware.com\/articles\/FogCreekMBA.html>looking to hire &#8220;the next generation of management&#8221;<\/a> at his company.  He didn&#8217;t care whether applicants had previous management experience or not.  He preferred a technical background.  Wow.  I had to apply.  So I spent a few days working with friends to polish up a cover letter and resume, and sent it off.<\/p>\n<p>And then I mostly forgot about it.  I mean, sure, I thought I would be a good fit.  But something like 300,000 people read Joel&#8217;s writings on the web.  And a couple hundred people apply for every job opening at his company.  So I knew my chances were statistically slim.  But I kept it in the back of my mind as a daydream through the next month and a half &#8211; &#8220;Wow, wouldn&#8217;t it be cool to work for Joel in New York?&#8221;  I almost didn&#8217;t want to hear an answer because that would mean I would have to stop daydreaming and confront reality.<\/p>\n<p>In mid-December, I got a phone call from the 212 area code.  New York.  Yikes.  &#8220;Are you still interested in the position?&#8221;  &#8220;Yes.&#8221;  &#8220;Do you have time to speak with Joel this week?&#8221;  &#8220;Um, yes!&#8221;  I did an hour-long phone interview with Joel later that week &#8211; we chatted about management, about various projects I&#8217;d been involved with over the past several years, etc.  And at the end, he invited me out to New York for an in-person interview.  We couldn&#8217;t squeeze it in before the holidays, so they flew me out in the first week of January.<\/p>\n<p>It was great.  They hired a car to pick me up from the airport.  They put me up in <a href=http:\/\/www.bryantparkhotel.com\/>a fantastic hotel<\/a> across from the New York Public Library.  The interview was a lot of fun &#8211; the questions were interesting, and I enjoyed meeting the different people at the company.  And, at the end of the day, I got an offer.<\/p>\n<p>Yowza.<\/p>\n<p>Suddenly, I was presented with the opportunity to fulfill several of my daydreams at once.  I could work with Joel!  I could live in New York!  I could move onto a management track!  I&#8217;d get to join an early-stage startup! (they&#8217;re still less than ten people, but looking to grow)<\/p>\n<p>It was disconcerting, to say the least.  I&#8217;ve settled into my life in the Bay Area over the past ten (!) years.  I have friends I adore, and a variety of social groups with whom to do stuff, from the chorus to ultimate frisbee.  I&#8217;ve got a burgeoning professional network.  I bought a condo four years ago.  I bought a new car last summer.  I know my place here.  And I&#8217;m going to trade this life in for some ill-defined fantasy?<\/p>\n<p>But the lure of New York was too much to deny.  I have no idea how things are going to work out.  But this way I&#8217;ll at least have found out whether I can convert those dreams into reality, rather than always thinking that the grass must be greener somewhere else.   I may return in a couple years to the Bay Area with my tail between the legs, but it&#8217;ll have been worth it just to know once and for all.  <\/p>\n<p>Wrap-up comments:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>I&#8217;m planning to move at the end of February or the beginning of March, depending on how quickly I deal with the mountain of logistics.\n<li>There will be a going away party as soon as I figure out what the heck I&#8217;m doing.\n<li>Yes, I&#8217;ve already been told that I need to rent a place with crash space for visitors.\n<li>I&#8217;d appreciate hearing about friends and interesting people in New York.\n<li>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll make it back to the Bay Area at least once or twice a year, just like the rest of my non-California-based friends who have visited regularly over the past ten years.  The move is a little less scary because I&#8217;ve already demonstrated that I keep in touch with my good friends no matter where they end up.\n<li>Dude, I&#8217;ll be able to spend weekends in Boston!  Or <a href=http:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/blog\/2005\/03\/28\/henry-rollins-and-cornell-march-24-28\/>in Ithaca visiting Jofish<\/a>!\n<li>People have asked me whether I&#8217;m excited, and I&#8217;m not quite yet.  But I think that&#8217;s because it&#8217;s not real yet.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll be really real until I&#8217;m on the plane to New York.\n<\/ul>\n<p>I think that&#8217;s it.  Crazy!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>That&#8217;s right. Crazy as it sounds, I&#8217;m going to move to New York. I&#8217;m still somewhat in disbelief myself. Here&#8217;s how it happened. Four or five years ago, I found this guy on the web who wrote about software development and software management and called himself Joel on Software. 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