{"id":418,"date":"2005-10-10T23:04:43","date_gmt":"2005-10-11T06:04:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/blog\/?p=418"},"modified":"2005-10-11T13:08:51","modified_gmt":"2005-10-11T20:08:51","slug":"web21-notes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/blog\/2005\/10\/10\/web21-notes\/","title":{"rendered":"Web2.1 notes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m glad <a href=http:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/blog\/2005\/10\/06\/going-to-web21\/>I decided to go<\/a> to the <A href=http:\/\/www.web2point1.org\/>Web2.1 BrainJam<\/a>.  I was a bit nervous, since I didn&#8217;t know anybody there and I don&#8217;t do this stuff for a living, but it turned out to be a good time.  <\/p>\n<p>Chris Heuer, the organizer, wanted to try doing what he called <a href=http:\/\/chrisheuer.blogspot.com\/2005\/10\/web-21-crazy-crazy-idea.html>Speed Brainjamming<\/a>, and what <a href=http:\/\/www.lifewithalacrity.com\/>Christopher Allen<\/a> called &#8220;Knowledge Cafes&#8221;.  The basic idea was to sit down with a few people you didn&#8217;t know, talk for a bit (10-20 minutes), and then they called time, and you moved on to a set of new people.  I enjoyed it a lot, meeting a bunch of new people, and hearing a bunch of different ideas.  It was interesting the different directions that people are coming at this from: some were academics interested in research, others were entrepreneurs who wanted to know what the business model was, others were thinking of it as a tool to help their own pursuits, whether <a href=http:\/\/www.myeastbayagentblog.com\/>real estate<\/a> or <a href=http:\/\/www.techsoup.org\/>nonprofits<\/a>,  and, of course, for me, it&#8217;s a hobby.  So it was great to hear about how people are thinking about using these new web tools, and I was always a bit disappointed when we had to stop talking and move on to the next group.<\/p>\n<p>A couple conversations I particularly enjoyed:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Dave Gutelius mentioned how he had started off learning about social networks by following a Sufi brotherhood through the Sahara desert.  Now he&#8217;s teaching at Stanford, and advising <A href=http:\/\/www.ishtirak.org\/>Ishtirak<\/a> and <a href=http:\/\/www.planetquest.org\/>PlanetQuest<\/A>, but it&#8217;s still about understanding social networks.\n<li>We had a good jamming conversation going with <A href=http:\/\/www.odannyboy.com\/>Dan Saffer<\/a>, <a href=http:\/\/www.rachelmmurray.com\/>Rachel Murray<\/a>, Michael Ferguson of ask.com, and Eric Lin.  Both Dan and Rachel are interaction designers rather than technologists, so they were more interested in the culture than the technology, a perspective I appreciate more and more as I learn that I&#8217;m not a technologist.  Eric brought up the issue of making Web2.1 available on one&#8217;s phone, and I riffed off of how I want my whole life available on my Sidekick.  It&#8217;s close (the Sidekick enabled me to go on a three week road trip and still always be in phone and email contact), but it&#8217;s not quite there.\n<\/ul>\n<p>After four rounds of conversations, the whole group reformed and went to presentations.  This was less interactive, which was a bit of a disappointment.  But there were a couple gems.  <\/p>\n<p><a href=http:\/\/www.buzzmachine.com\/>Jeff Jarvis<\/a> did a great little talk on <a href=http:\/\/recovery2.org\/>Recovery 2.0<\/A>.  I knew Jarvis&#8217;s name, but had never read his blog or seen him speak before, and I was really impressed.  Quotes I liked a lot included:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;It&#8217;s not a medium, it&#8217;s a means&#8221;, making the point that users aren&#8217;t generating content for the sake of content &#8211; they&#8217;re sharing their lives as communication\n<li>&#8220;We need to swarm better&#8221; and &#8220;congregate to other communities&#8221;, taking advantage of the <A href=http:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/blog\/2005\/08\/09\/my-personal-blogosphere\/>distributed nature of the blogosphere<\/a>, rather than depending on mass media to do the filtering for us.\n<li>&#8220;There is no <em>it<\/em>, there&#8217;s a lot of different its&#8221;, along the same lines.\n<\/ul>\n<p>He also pointed out the three prerequisites for effective swarming, using <a href=http:\/\/www.buzzmachine.com\/index.php\/2005\/10\/09\/14\/>Recovery 2.0 as an example<\/a>:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>A place to swarm to, e.g. the Recovery2.0 wiki and the <A href=http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/recovery2>recovery2 tag<\/a>.\n<li>Standardization and APIs, so that swarms can interact and communicate effectively, using XML or whatever else works.\n<li>Face to face meetings, as the best way to get different swarms talking to each other.  <A href=http:\/\/www.nehrlich.com\/blog\/2005\/05\/10\/politics-of-nature-part-3\/>Diplomacy <\/a>is best handled in person rather than through technology.\n<\/ol>\n<p>The other presentation I found inspiring was <A href=http:\/\/kalsey.com\/>Adam Kalsey&#8217;s<\/a> presentation of <A href=http:\/\/tagyu.com\/>Tagyu<\/a>.  Not so much by the idea of Tagyu, although it&#8217;s a pretty nifty idea to have a program figure out the appropriate tags given a URL or text.  But by his description of the development process.  He had the idea on Tuesday, coded it up Wednesday, tested it on Thursday, and demo&#8217;d it on Friday.  The tools are getting sufficiently high level that the idea, not the technology, is the limiting factor.  Makes me want to start learning more of this web stuff, in case I ever have a good idea.<\/p>\n<p>Overall, it was a good experience.  Unfortunately, I didn&#8217;t make it to the after party due to a prior engagement, so it felt like I had just barely gotten a shallow introduction to these people and the ideas floating around.  But I&#8217;ll keep my eyes open and hope to make it to more such events in the future.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks go to <A href=http:\/\/chrisheuer.blogspot.com\/>Chris Heuer<\/a> for organizing, his girlfriend Kristie for handling all of the logistics, Brian Shields from KRON for finding us the space (it happened in a KRON studio) and <a href=http:\/\/www.thebayareaistalking.com\/archives\/2005\/10\/video_from_the.html>producing a piece for the evening news<\/a> on it, and to everybody else for being interesting and friendly.  <\/p>\n<p>Technorati tag: <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/web2.1\" rel=\"tag\">Web2.1<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/Web2.1BrainJam\" rel=\"tag\">Web2.1BrainJam<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/web2point1\" rel=\"tag\">Web2point1<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m glad I decided to go to the Web2.1 BrainJam. I was a bit nervous, since I didn&#8217;t know anybody there and I don&#8217;t do this stuff for a living, but it turned out to be a good time. 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