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	<title>Comments on: The Future of Reputation, by Daniel J. Solove</title>
	<link>http://www.nehrlich.com/blog/2008/03/16/the-future-of-reputation-by-daniel-j-solove/</link>
	<description>Eric Nehrlich, Unrepentant Generalist</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Nehrlich, Unrepentant Generalist &#124;&#124; Unpacking &#8220;it&#8217;s complicated&#8221; &#124;&#124; April &#124;&#124; 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.nehrlich.com/blog/2008/03/16/the-future-of-reputation-by-daniel-j-solove/#comment-148575</link>
		<author>Eric Nehrlich, Unrepentant Generalist &#124;&#124; Unpacking &#8220;it&#8217;s complicated&#8221; &#124;&#124; April &#124;&#124; 2008</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is aware that they are always on stage and are comfortable with it in a way that writers like Daniel Solove certainly wouldn&#8217;t be. In fact, they use Facebook as a platform to communicate with their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is aware that they are always on stage and are comfortable with it in a way that writers like Daniel Solove certainly wouldn&#8217;t be. In fact, they use Facebook as a platform to communicate with their [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Beemer</title>
		<link>http://www.nehrlich.com/blog/2008/03/16/the-future-of-reputation-by-daniel-j-solove/#comment-144425</link>
		<author>Beemer</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nehrlich.com/blog/2008/03/16/the-future-of-reputation-by-daniel-j-solove/#comment-144425</guid>
		<description>Sure, but consider the argument that a large portion of the solution -- certainly not all, but a lot of it -- is that people need to realize that &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; has potentially embarrassing information, and not to overreact just because they happened to find someone's out.

One could argue that the problem is not that the information about people's checkered pasts is out there, it's that people who run across it are giving it undue weight.

So dude has kinky sex preferences.  So what?  Is that a valid justification for treating him poorly?  So Star Wars kid was youthfully exuberant.  A decent person, upon recognizing him as an adult, would either say something positive or nothing at all.  "Boy, you sure were a dork when you were twelve" is not an appropriate or civil comment, and I hope he learns to respond, with dignity, "What, and you weren't a dork?  At least my dorkitude was briefly famous.  What did YOU do when you were twelve?"

The internet may be forever, but which is the more shameful behavior: doing something stupid?  Or holding someone's one-time stupidity against them in perpetuity, never giving them the benefit of the doubt, and never forgiving the unforgotten mistake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, but consider the argument that a large portion of the solution &#8212; certainly not all, but a lot of it &#8212; is that people need to realize that <i>everyone</i> has potentially embarrassing information, and not to overreact just because they happened to find someone&#8217;s out.</p>
<p>One could argue that the problem is not that the information about people&#8217;s checkered pasts is out there, it&#8217;s that people who run across it are giving it undue weight.</p>
<p>So dude has kinky sex preferences.  So what?  Is that a valid justification for treating him poorly?  So Star Wars kid was youthfully exuberant.  A decent person, upon recognizing him as an adult, would either say something positive or nothing at all.  &#8220;Boy, you sure were a dork when you were twelve&#8221; is not an appropriate or civil comment, and I hope he learns to respond, with dignity, &#8220;What, and you weren&#8217;t a dork?  At least my dorkitude was briefly famous.  What did YOU do when you were twelve?&#8221;</p>
<p>The internet may be forever, but which is the more shameful behavior: doing something stupid?  Or holding someone&#8217;s one-time stupidity against them in perpetuity, never giving them the benefit of the doubt, and never forgiving the unforgotten mistake?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.nehrlich.com/blog/2008/03/16/the-future-of-reputation-by-daniel-j-solove/#comment-144392</link>
		<author>Eric</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nehrlich.com/blog/2008/03/16/the-future-of-reputation-by-daniel-j-solove/#comment-144392</guid>
		<description>I think it's more complicated than that.  I agree that people will learn new virtual cues and new social norms, the way they eventually learned email etiquette.  But that still doesn't help with the publication of what should be private information without recourse.  

We have all done things we're not proud of, and we don't necessarily want to broadcast those things to people that we're meeting for the first time.  On a first date, you don't say "Let me tell you about all of my bad habits and all the stupid things I've done."  

But if somebody else has splashed that stuff on the Internet, then it's easily accessible via Google, and you don't even get the chance to explain yourself.  One man mentioned in the book is haunted by a short stint in prison he did when he was a teenager, because employers and potential girlfriends weren't even letting him explain the circumstances before dismissing him.  Another guy mentioned had &lt;a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Cutler rel="nofollow"&gt;his girlfriend wrote about his kinky sexual preferences on her blog&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=http://sanford.blogspot.com/2006/09/infinite-memory-of-google.html rel="nofollow"&gt;Another friend&lt;/a&gt; tells the story of a fellow student who changed his name as the only way of escaping an allegation of drug dealing. Do you think the Star Wars kid is ever going to live down his youthful exuberance?

Maybe those people don't deserve a second chance, and are simply reaping the consequences of their actions.  But I think we should still hold some degree of control over what information we disclose and when.  And the Internet can make it much harder to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s more complicated than that.  I agree that people will learn new virtual cues and new social norms, the way they eventually learned email etiquette.  But that still doesn&#8217;t help with the publication of what should be private information without recourse.  </p>
<p>We have all done things we&#8217;re not proud of, and we don&#8217;t necessarily want to broadcast those things to people that we&#8217;re meeting for the first time.  On a first date, you don&#8217;t say &#8220;Let me tell you about all of my bad habits and all the stupid things I&#8217;ve done.&#8221;  </p>
<p>But if somebody else has splashed that stuff on the Internet, then it&#8217;s easily accessible via Google, and you don&#8217;t even get the chance to explain yourself.  One man mentioned in the book is haunted by a short stint in prison he did when he was a teenager, because employers and potential girlfriends weren&#8217;t even letting him explain the circumstances before dismissing him.  Another guy mentioned had <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Cutler rel="nofollow">his girlfriend wrote about his kinky sexual preferences on her blog</a>. <a href=http://sanford.blogspot.com/2006/09/infinite-memory-of-google.html rel="nofollow">Another friend</a> tells the story of a fellow student who changed his name as the only way of escaping an allegation of drug dealing. Do you think the Star Wars kid is ever going to live down his youthful exuberance?</p>
<p>Maybe those people don&#8217;t deserve a second chance, and are simply reaping the consequences of their actions.  But I think we should still hold some degree of control over what information we disclose and when.  And the Internet can make it much harder to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Beemer</title>
		<link>http://www.nehrlich.com/blog/2008/03/16/the-future-of-reputation-by-daniel-j-solove/#comment-144386</link>
		<author>Beemer</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nehrlich.com/blog/2008/03/16/the-future-of-reputation-by-daniel-j-solove/#comment-144386</guid>
		<description>There's no longer a monetary cost to publish information about people's behavior, but there is a cost in terms of your own reputation.  If I easily find fault with people and spew negativity all the time, people will rapidly devalue my opinions.  I think the best online systems are ones that directly or indirectly let people build their own reputations and then reap the benefits or consequences.

The subject also puts me in mind of the populace's evolving ability to distinguish valuable information and opinions from worthless ones.  I remember back in Teh Intarweb Dawn Times getting lots of copies of the Neiman-Marcus Cookie Recipe&#8482;.  Over time, they tapered off as the people I know who have my email address got a clue.  I wonder if maybe many of the problems we see with online reputation are just a marker of transition, and that as the bulk of the world gets a clue, if viral opinions as indelible Digital Scarlet Letters will come to seem as quaint and ridiculous as people believing that the radio broadcast of War of the Worlds was fact not fiction...

(I really can't wait until some Gen-Yer runs for office and says in response to the discovery of some online "scandal": "Dude, &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; my age posted drunk-and-nekkid pictures to MySpace when they were 20.  It's totally unimportant.  Get over it.")</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no longer a monetary cost to publish information about people&#8217;s behavior, but there is a cost in terms of your own reputation.  If I easily find fault with people and spew negativity all the time, people will rapidly devalue my opinions.  I think the best online systems are ones that directly or indirectly let people build their own reputations and then reap the benefits or consequences.</p>
<p>The subject also puts me in mind of the populace&#8217;s evolving ability to distinguish valuable information and opinions from worthless ones.  I remember back in Teh Intarweb Dawn Times getting lots of copies of the Neiman-Marcus Cookie Recipe&trade;.  Over time, they tapered off as the people I know who have my email address got a clue.  I wonder if maybe many of the problems we see with online reputation are just a marker of transition, and that as the bulk of the world gets a clue, if viral opinions as indelible Digital Scarlet Letters will come to seem as quaint and ridiculous as people believing that the radio broadcast of War of the Worlds was fact not fiction&#8230;</p>
<p>(I really can&#8217;t wait until some Gen-Yer runs for office and says in response to the discovery of some online &#8220;scandal&#8221;: &#8220;Dude, <i>everyone</i> my age posted drunk-and-nekkid pictures to MySpace when they were 20.  It&#8217;s totally unimportant.  Get over it.&#8221;)</p>
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